that he said such a thing because basically i've taught about 7,000 women how to shoot, and they prefer to use a handgun, and so do i because most women are really afraid about being home alone at night, sound asleep when someone breaks into the house and they're not ready to get a shotgun underneath their bed. they would like to have a smaller gun and be prepared to defend themselves. >> a particular point he was making by way of comparison was why would anyone need an ar-15, which was, of course, the weapon used at aurora and, again, at sandy hook, and, indeed, in most of the mass shootings in america. what would your response be to that? >> well, i agree with him that i think an ar-15 is not something that the normal, average citizen should have, and, indeed, he is right that if you had a shotgun and you pull the trigger, it's going to -- it's going to scare somebody. there's no doubt about that.